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Old 09-19-2007, 10:45 AM
PLOlover PLOlover is offline
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Default Re: here\'s a police brutality deal for real

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Do you understand that the things in blue are generally legal and the things in red are generally not legal? Whether you like it or not, the way it works in our society is that cops have special police powers, and when they put their hands on you, it is not necessarily assault.

What is the alternative in this situation, cops attempt to escort him out, he resists, cops give up and go eat a donut?

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well my main point is that the cops had no reason to escort him out. none.

now if they can coerce him into voluntarily leaving, that is legal. but you do not have to consent to being coerced.

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let's say the police want to search your house.

1) they come with a search warrant, (if they're nice) they knock and say hey guy, you mind if we search, they produce the warrant, and if you resist, they use force. See, in this case they are allowed to use force.

2) they come with no warrant (fishing expedition), and are nice and knock on the door and say hey guy, mind if we search your house, it's just routine, just for your safety, etc. Now if you refuse to consent, if you resist, if you say screw off, guess what?, the cops have to give up and go eat a donut.

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what I'm saying is that this incident seems to me be totally in 2), where the police had no authority to use force. where am I wrong?
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