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Old 09-17-2007, 04:21 PM
ShakeZula06 ShakeZula06 is offline
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Default Re: Making Lucid Posts is TOOOO Much Work.....

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Personally I thought we should have invaded Iraq for:
1. Violating the terms of the armistice
2. Trying to assassinate Bush41 in 1993 while he was in Kuwait


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Wow, a trillion dollar war and tens of thousands dead because of that? That's the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.
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All the WMD stuff was just icing on the cake. But...I'll play your game. We know Iraq had WMD because they used them on Iran and the Kurds. After the first Gulf War, small amounts were discovered by weapons inspectors. After the 2nd Gulf War we have found small caches of Chem/Bio weapons, The last cache was 500 rounds. WMD have been found. The mystery is why have not more been found and what happen to these stockpiles. Iraq provided no proof the WMD stockpiles were destroyed. All we have is Saddam's word which is worthless. Former Iraqi General George Sada claims Saddam sent his WMD stockpiles and mfg equipment to Syria before the war.


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The weapons we found were not the weapons Bush was insinuating and conveying that he had. You really think that the American public would have supported invading Iraq based on them having WMDs that had no chance of hurting any Americans?

It was just propaganda to increase the popularity of war in Iraq. Nothing more.
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Sada made the Talk radio circuit promoting his book. Sada was one of the few generals that Saddam would listen to. He was ordered to execute American prisoners in the first Gulf War and he refused the order....and survived (he was dismissed from the military). He is a fascinating man...

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So...this guy was kicked out of the military in '91 but you think his claim (with no proof) about what the Iraqi military did in 2003 should be taken for granted?
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Show me ONE quote where Bush or his admin say Saddam was behind 911.... They did say words to effect that Saddam had talks with Al Qaeda but they hardly qualifies the claim your making. Show me *ONE* quote.


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I'm not claiming Bush said he was behind it. This was another case of propaganda and insinutating a Saddam/OBL connection and that he had helped AQ.
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I was not aware this was a lie. Al Qaeda is in the USA, Europe, the Phillipines, Indonesia, Africa, Middle East,....BUT...they were not in Iraq?

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I'm assuming based on this logic we should invade America, right? I'm not saying there was no AQ members at all in Iraq, I'm saying there was no connection between those AQ members and Saddam, which has been firmly established since the CFR's fictional tales they gave in 2003.
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But to say there was no connection is not true. We do know there were talks between AQ and Saddam's govt.

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The 9/11 commission disagrees with you.
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Small caches of mustard and Sarin gas rounds have been discovered. The biggest cache was 500 rounds. Again according to Gen Sada the stockpiles were moved to Syria.

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Again, nothing that could be construed as a threat to the United States, contrary to the opinions of the war mongers pre-war.
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The decision was correct. The execution was lousy.

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OK, explain how he should of executed the war. Burned down all of Iraq?
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When you try to assassinate an ex-president, then YOU GO TO WAR against the nation that sponsored the assassination.

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We aren't fighting an Iraqi army anymore, what do you want to kill off civilians because their dictator tried to assassinate a president a long time ago? Do you need to be explained why that's stupid?
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If the occupation was properly managed then Iraq would have been stabilized long ago...

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On all ears. What's the "proper" and effective way to stabilize while occupying a nation?

Again, for emphasis:
We were told the war would be a slam dunk and that the little amount of money the war would cost would be paid for in oil. Now the war is basically guarenteed to cost over one trillion dollars. They said we would be treated as liberators, people try to kill us daily and Iraqi polls indicate they want us to leave (as well as American polls).
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