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Old 09-15-2007, 06:57 PM
ChicagoRy ChicagoRy is offline
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Default (NLTRN) 200 regular, river spot vs uncommon fish

Here's the hand.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t15/t30
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1445
BB: t1555

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t90</font>, BB calls t60 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t120)</font>.

Flop: 3[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] J[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t180, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t120</font>, BB calls t120 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t300)</font>.

Turn: 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t420, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t325</font>, BB calls t325 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t745)</font>.

River: 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t1070, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">BB is all-in t1020</font>.

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Here are a few hands that may be relevant.

First one is from a game I played against him the night before this match. The second one is from earlier in this second match.

Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
SB: t1330
Hero: t1670

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is BB with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t40</font>, Hero calls t20 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t60)</font>.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t80, 2 players)
Hero checks, <font color="#cc0000">SB bets t40</font>, Hero calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t120)</font>.

Turn: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t160, 2 players)
Hero checks, SB checks.

River: 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] (t160, 2 players)
<font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t120</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises to t240</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises all-in t1590</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB calls all-in t1010</font>.
Uncalled bets: t340 returned to Hero.

Results:
Final pot: t2660
<font color="#ffffff">Villain mucked Qc 9h </font>



Poker Stars
No Limit Holdem Tournament
Blinds: t10/t20
2 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
Hero: t1690
BB: t1310

Pre-flop: (2 players) Hero is SB with 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
<font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to t60</font>, BB calls t40 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t80)</font>.

Flop: 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] (t120, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t80</font>, BB calls t80 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t200)</font>.

Turn: 3[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t280, 2 players)
BB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets t190</font>, BB calls t190 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was t470)</font>.

River: 2[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] (t660, 2 players)
BB checks, Hero checks.

Results:
Final pot: t660
<font color="#ffffff">BB showed Tc 3c</font>


Let me give you a little background info on villain. He has played 250ish HUSNGs, 200 of them are 5 or 10 dollar games. More than half of the rest are 20 and 30 dollar regular speed games as well.

Once in awhile villain loses a 5 and tilts. He then plays higher and higher until he wins a match. The first night (the night of the Q4 I won above) he had lost a 5, 10, 30, 100 and then the 200 to me. He then lost a 500 and 1k before winning a 2k and stopping.

He had already lost a 5, 10, 30 and 100 when I sat with him in this 200.

He was extremely weak tight the first night I played him, and when I saw the match prior to this (his 100 loss) he seemed equally weak tight. He seems to be opening up a little bit and becoming more passive in this game. It seems like there was a pattern to what he did previously, almost like a robot was playing, but he's either being put in some new spots or he's opening up leading up towards this hand. I weight it to the latter heavily. Regardless I feel very strongly that villain overvalues a wide range of hands.

So what do you do in this spot and why? Any other questions about villain are welcome or my play on any other street, thoughts, etc.

I'll weigh in with results down the line.

Also I know some people know about this hand, so if you do please keep results out of the thread, but your comments about your view on villain are certainly welcome.
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