Re: Poker In Colorado?
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This is where the games are protected. If it happens like this, this guy just laid 2:1 with his kings. Now if he signaled a partner to fold pocket queens while he had kings that would be tough to beat.
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So how are the games protected? You seem to defend your casino and are overly sure that there is no collusion going on up there. Tell me you're not that naive?
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This is not an effective collusion method. Successful collusion generally involves playing best hand and folding hands that would otherwise be played. People will try to collude by raising for their partner but particularly in limit games this is not an effective method of cheating. Do you really think the KK is such a good hand that it is worth it to lose double when it gets beaten. These same allegations are made in every market (you are new here so I am going to assume that you aren't aware that I have experience in multiple large poker markets and was only recently convinced to come to Colorado). The story is always the same: "You can't win at {insert largest room with most action} because they collude {some people say cheat, some say play partners} there." I do think this appears worse in Colorado because there are players that want to always cap it that would be blowing off their money at 10-20 or 20-40 if it was allowed. It isn't cheating if two players make it $30 preflop (5 raise limit in CO) every hand. If someone raises every hand they will still get their share of good and bad cards so there will be times that one of the raisers have AA and one has 27.
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Obviously they cap with the goods and don't cap with bad hands (the teams... not the bad players). Like I stated before, they will check down a flopped boat if a white or non-team member is not in the hand - F*CKING OBVIOUS! And yes KK will ALWAYS be a favorite over any hand pre flop but Aces- so very cap-able.
Once again... if you tell or signal an accomplice to raise in order to build a pot for your good hand - IT'S COLLUSION!!!! RR what part of this do you not understand?
If your casino (or sister casino the Lodge) were serious about stopping this - they easily have the means (gaming laws) to do so. They also most definately can get evidence by simply reviewing tapes (hand signals), talking to players and dealers, or by simply going undercover with a few agents. Remember, a Casino can refuse service to anybody for any reason - you don't even need rock solid evidence.
I was involved in a tournament at the Station one night where a disgruntled player called gaming to the Casino. She was bitching about how we were colluding when someone mentioned "I'll check it down" when she was all in. Gaming came over for about 2 HOURS and reviewed the situation (ruling in our favor because nobody was sure what was said). Now come on... this is peanuts compared to what goes on at the Lodge. Where the F is gaming?
Sadly, from your exhaustingly tiresome managerial defense of this practice, I don't hope to see any changes soon. So I simply won't play 5-5 at the Lodge and will always instruct others not to play there. [img]/images/graemlins/mad.gif[/img]
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