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Old 09-10-2007, 07:44 PM
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£15 £3500 added. Standard is bad but no reads on villain.



Cryptologic
No Limit Holdem Ring game
Blinds: $150/$300
9 players
Converter

Stack sizes:
UTG: $1460
UTG+1: $10010
Hero: $12195
MP2: $2605
MP3: $3342
CO: $2990
Button: $7746
SB: $11260
BB: $4530

Pre-flop: (9 players) Hero is MP1 with A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]
UTG folds, UTG+1 calls $300 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $450)</font>, <font color="#cc0000">Hero raises to $1200</font>, 4 folds, SB calls $1050 <font color="aaaaaa">(pot was $1950)</font>, 2 folds.

Flop: Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] ($3000, 2 players)
SB checks, <font color="#cc0000">Hero bets $2000</font>, <font color="#cc0000">SB raises all-in $10060</font>, Hero?

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I don't think that (without a read on SB) that this is an 'easy call.' I know that you're saying that the defalut assumpition with respect to the skill level of the avg player in this tourney is bad...but the question is how bad?

Obv, calling OOP with 44 here is pretty bad IMO, as is calling w JTs;KQ. I don't hate calling with KQs, but not against a strong player. Calling with QQ is interesting (i'd usually RR it OOP tho.) AA and KK are in his range too.

Postflop, why would he play the hands that have u killed (KK;QQ;44) so fast on this flop? You've only got about 1/4 of your stack invested...by raising a limper and c-betting. So far, this has not been a huge show of strength. He'd have to really suck to assume that you're really strong here and c/r AI with a set. I'd expect a min-c/r from a player that flatcalls pre w QQ-AA. IMO, he's more likely to play KQ fast, along with JT/air. If u had c-bet 1500, or if he reads your 2/3 pot bet as weak...his range could widen to include 77-TT. In my experience, donks will c/call down w AQ here. His weird line here makes it tough to figure out what part of his range he plays like this. Without a read, i think this is a fold, although i wouldn't feel very good about it...
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