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There must be SOME Michigan fans willing to post here...are they all gutless?

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In the past 6 seasons, Lloyd Carr is 2-10 against OSU and in Bowl games. He would have been fired at every other major program except Michigan. We tolerate mediocrity like nobody else (see the basketball program).

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I think you're right. Michigan seems to reward loyalty by hiring in-house candidates regardless of qualifications. Lloyd may be a poor head coach, but I still think he's a good recruiter who excels at the art of persuasion. Maybe he needs better assistants to manage in-game, but he's a terrific public speaker and motivator.