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thanks for the reply and I agree w/ most, but disagree on one important point:

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Nope. You fire at a CS when you have a strong hand. You do not have one at any point.


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How is 2 pair GK not a good hand when villain is willing to call down w/ mp (hand 2)

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Well the 2 pair is irrelevant of course when one of them is on the board, it's worse in fact because he could easily have trips. I really don't see a huge amount of relevance from the example hand, really, because in that hand he had TPTK until the river and couldn't expect that the river card helped you.

I've just seen this so many times, cbet a passive CS w air, then you hit on the turn but are by no means sure you are ahead. It's a good way to bleed lots of money. I guess there's no other way to play it once you cbet but my cbet % in this spot is gonna be much less on this type of board vs a CS, when he's not folding any pair, draws, or piece of the board.