I read the FAQ posts. It offers both sides but it did mention that this forum tends to not like this discussion, however they were from 2005 and the games have changed a bit since then as well.
These are some (non-selective) of my full-stack PFAI KK hands out of my last 30k hands (when I reformatted and lost previous data in PT). I'm well aware of the sample size but the fact that stands out to me is that in the ones where opponent bets, I raise, he shoves -- I've felt like I was against AA every single time in these but called anyways.
Thoughts?
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed)
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CO ($102.25)
Hero ($100.40)
SB ($107.55)
BB ($293.80)
UTG ($79.65)
MP ($99)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">
2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#666666">
2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100.4</font>, UTG calls $49.65 (All-In).
Flop: ($160.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Turn: ($160.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
River: ($160.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: $160.80
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $160.80. Hero wins $20.75. </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (9 handed)
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MP2 ($123)
MP3 ($122.20)
Hero ($113.80)
Button ($19.50)
SB ($308.50)
BB ($87.45)
UTG ($96.40)
UTG+1 ($101.30)
MP1 ($49.75)
Preflop: Hero is CO with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
UTG calls $1, <font color="#666666">
2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">
1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $13</font>, <font color="#666666">
3 folds</font>, UTG folds, <font color="#CC3333">MP2 raises to $50</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $113.8</font>, MP2 calls $63.80.
Flop: ($230.10) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Turn: ($230.10) Q[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
River: ($230.10) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Final Pot: $230.10
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
MP2 has As Ah (three of a kind, aces).
Hero has Kd Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: MP2 wins $230.10. </font>
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (6 handed)
Hand History Converter Tool from
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CO ($102.25)
Hero ($100.40)
SB ($107.55)
BB ($293.80)
UTG ($79.65)
MP ($99)
Preflop: Hero is Button with K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, <font color="#666666">
2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $11</font>, <font color="#666666">
2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $30</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $100.4</font>, UTG calls $49.65 (All-In).
Flop: ($160.80) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Turn: ($160.80) 3[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
River: ($160.80) 6[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 1 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: $160.80
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ad Ah (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kh Ks (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $160.80. Hero wins $20.75. </font>
For what it's worth, I'm not saying I'm wanting to fold in situations like this due to the stack sizes... I'm talking strictly about 100bb+ stacks
PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em, $1.00 BB (8 handed)
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UTG ($48.85)
UTG+1 ($42)
MP1 ($314.90)
Hero ($160)
CO ($38.50)
Button ($146.50)
SB ($130.30)
BB ($100)
Preflop: Hero is MP2 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $4</font>, UTG+1 calls $4, <font color="#666666">
1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to $14</font>, <font color="#666666">
4 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">UTG raises to $48.85</font>, UTG+1 folds, Hero calls $34.85.
Flop: ($103.20) 5[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Turn: ($103.20) Q[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
River: ($103.20) 2[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
Final Pot: $103.20
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
UTG has Ad As (one pair, aces).
Hero has Kd Kh (one pair, kings).
Outcome: UTG wins $103.20. </font>