Re: Movies where the bad guy wins
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wtf Silence and Empire?
-Hannibal is not the bad guy, Gumb is.
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this is an interesting point. hannibal clearly isn't the antagonist (though he is a "bad guy").
one of the greatest coups of the film _silence of the lambs_ is how it makes me root for Lecter during the escape scene.
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-Vader's ONLY goal was to bring Luke to the Dark Side, and he did everything he had planned, and it failed miserably, Luke still said "I'll never join you"
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i think The Empire is the antagonist in _The Empire strikes back_, and the empire is kicking ass: they've caught one of the leaders of the Rebellion, the only Light Jedi left is missing his lightsaber hand, Solo is in carbonite, etc.
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