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i think way too often youre forced to fold fourth here, and if not fourth youre almost always drawing super shtty by fifth ( even with made 78 ) with so many people in.

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Don't all the limps imply that nobody else has a smooth hand?

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7th you may as well bet because you shouldnt be getting raised. hope you won.

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Yeah, I'm still wondering how everybody else would respond to a raise on the end. It seems a terrible pity to let a huge pot go, but a bluff seems so pointless I can't imagine anyone trying it.

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* some players are really into limping and overlimping strong to extract maximum potential value ( while sacrificing immediate value ) by getting to the big bet portions of hands...alot more so at these stakes.

there are 100000 different pros and cons that i'd really rather not expand upon for this method, but it exists.

also if an unknown raises my value bet, i sigh and call. ive been bluff raised twice in 3 days on 7th. albeit, ive played like [censored].