[tozzy]

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id c/c twice and bet river now that you've done this.

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elaborate.

i think taking this line is like saying, i have something w/ showdown value on the flop, i still have something w/ showdown value on the turn, and now fold all your bluffs and some of your medium strength hands on the river. i mean obviously it depends on how the board comes out and if he actually bets two streets...but i don't see how i could ever like this line more than some others suggested.

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stack sizes are not totally optimal but assuming we openshove river, villain is gonna get something like 1:3,5 and our hand will be SEVERELY underreped by the time we get there. the line basically says: "allright, i have KK and im either way ahead or way behind. ill give him 2 tries to bluff me and [censored] good odds to make a crying call on the river"