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Old 09-01-2007, 02:50 AM
sethypooh21 sethypooh21 is offline
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Default Re: Coordinating your ranges

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Nice post, Seth. The kind of response I was looking for.

What I'm doing is brain-storming on how to effectively apply these meta-game concepts to an actual game.

For instance, I have AQ UI OOP against a TAG, I have the initiative and bet the flop, turn, the river is another blank. I suspect he will only call with a hand that beats me. If I check, he'll check down the lowest range of his SD worthy hands, and bet his better hands for value. SOP here is usually to check-fold. But how often should we bet?

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Your asking the wrong question in this specific example - the question is how often should you call when he bets. In practice, you should probably bet about never vs. a good tag here - if he folds, you had the best hand anyway, and if he calls you are so beat by 98% of his range. So the only way to get value here is to induce a bluff. This is a pretty board and opponent dependent read whether to check with the intention of folding or checking with the intention of calling. If your Heisenberg, you might get really fancy and check with the intention of bluffraising, but I never feel like I have close to a good enough read to try this one.

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I understand it's impossible to quantify an exact frequency. Consider this to be more of a thought experiment of how to cultivate an image so you get paid off with your good hands against other decent players.

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Basically, you get paid off by making yourself appear looser and more aggro than you actually are. The easiest way to do this is in blind steal and defense situations, as your ranges will be (correctly) wider in these spots. People don't always take this into account, instead remembering when you show down K5s and the like.

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Over the years of reading the limit section here, it seems the more successful players have an image that's both bluffer and unbluffable. They get paid for their hands, while preventing themselves from folding too many winners.

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You've pretty much just described good poker...
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