View Single Post
  #5  
Old 08-31-2007, 02:46 AM
Beermantm Beermantm is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Chicago!!!!! South Side!!
Posts: 143
Default Re: Bankroll Management- Minimizing Downswings

[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
If you feel this helps you then it may work, but we have a roll for a reason & droping down for the sake of it will hurt the winrate! This is player dependant and would probably help someone that tilts hard.

[/ QUOTE ]

Im def. not sure it would help me or be better then typical bankroll management suggests, just kind of throwing it out there as an idea.

I agree though- for someone that tilts hard this could help. Additionally, for someone playing on a short bankroll (say 20 buy ins) this could really reduce risk of ruin/busto.

The main thing I'm wondering is would it really hurt winrate for a player with a large roll? Perhaps you drop down at say -5 bi's. If you go on say a -15bi downswing, wouldn't it be better to lose say

-5 buy ins at 1,000NL (-5000)
-5 buy ins at 600NL (-3000)
-5 buy ins at 400NL (-2000)
Total -$10000
then -15k?

Say that downswing is followed by a 15bi upswing:
+2 buy ins at 400NL (+800)
+2 buy ins at 600NL (+1200)
+11 buy ins at 1000NL (+11,000)
Total +13,000

So we lose out on $2,000 on our upswing, but save $5,000 on our downswing.

Because the method allows you to move up quickly and that you are playing at levels much lower then normal (games which you have greater EV in), and also the fact that losses are going to be minimized near the end of the downswing, would winrate be effected that significantly?

[/ QUOTE ]

So instead of doubling up 15 times at the same level you have to double up what 17 times?? (two extra times at other levels)

Seems to me you are putting off your win-rate in a hefty manner seeing that if you are indeed a winning player you will experience a greater number of upswings than down swings.

I think switching limits is a good idea if you can not beat the limit you are playing at or a game one level down is so much softer that your profit and win rate go up a fairly large amount. Other than that you should play at the highest limit you both have an edge at and that your bankroll can handle the variance.


I read these threads and people have a large attachment to their bankroll which is supposed to be disposable income. You should be able to lose your entire bankroll and life will continue along as nothing happened. Obviously this is not the case for the vast majority of posters on these boards or anyone who plays poker for a living. Someone who plays poker for a living and their bankrolls are their lives, I could see some adjusting after losing a certain percentage. Until they can build their bankroll back up to the full amount at the lower level so that they can move back up to the more profitable limit.
If moving down holds no benefit, like your win-rate remains the same between the two levels, then I never understand the moving down in limits. It will simply take you longer to make back the loses.
Reply With Quote