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Old 08-27-2007, 02:32 AM
Phil153 Phil153 is offline
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Default Re: If you are an evolutionist . . .

Chris - before Borodog goes on a rant about not getting his point, the incentive is profit and avoidance of strife.

Borodog thinks that everyone operates on a profit/utility motive, and that costly things (like being an arsehole to people, plundering, starting wars, abusing means or power, raping children, corporate fraud that might be discovered, and so on) will be avoided. That's the entire basis of his argument. He think institutionalized violence and fraud only exists where it is propped up by government monopoly, or after a government has destroyed society. He also thinks that the market will always supply what people want, so if they want freedom from warlords, the market will supply it. Any cultures where this doesn't happen (pretty much every society in history without a government, with a few minor exceptions), according to Borodog either do not respect property rights (which is required, lol) or came about through government destruction of society. Pretty convenient, no? Someone claims that AC fails in case X, and Borodog ticks a box:

[] the idiots don't respect property rights, duh. Nothing works without property rights!
[] a government was the cause!

Suffice to say, he's doing some massive shoehorning. As for the profit motive being supreme, he doesn't understand the world or human nature very well.
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