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Old 08-26-2007, 01:30 PM
leo doc leo doc is offline
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Default Re: Raise or fold situaion??

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Lets overlook the preflop play for a moment and just focus on what to do on the flop. Its a LAG 10/20 live limit game. UTG limps, the next position raises, I C/C with Q7h, both blinds call, and the limper calls. The flop is J 7 3 with one heart. The limper checks, original raiser bets, and I??

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It's hard for me to ascertain if this post is here to ask a legit question, or is it "to test the audience." The reason I am saying this is because the hand is virtually identical to the SSHE hand on page 96 where the discussion of postflop play begins. To wit:

"...while it is relatively easy to judge good preflop play from bad, it is much harder to so for postflop play. Look at this hand from the perspective of a poor player: One player limps, and the next one raises. Our hero is next to act with Qh7h and calls. Everyone folds to the blinds, who both call. The limper calls. (10 small bets). The flop is

Jc7s5h

giving him middle pair and a backdoor flush draw. It is checked to the preflop raiser who bets. Our hero calls.

Our hapless hero has made two plays so far, and has gotten them both wrong. Most people instantly identify his preflop play as an eroor: It is clearly incorrect to cold-call the raise with queen-seven. But a much smaller percentage of poker players could identify his error on the flop. Yet, of his two mistakes, his flop play is worse by far! Raising is the correct play; calling and folding are both major mistakes!"

Given the similarities in OP's hand and the one in SSHE (only the flopped 5 in SSHE was changed), this post seems a bit disingenuous if, in fact, OP is looking for answers to the proper play of "his hand." If, however, he was "testing" the 2+2ers here, I give the responders to his post an A+.

And a word of caution to OP, you'll marginalize yourself very quickly with this crowd by plagerizing other folks material.
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