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Of course that's a bad analogy since I was playing against other players, not a machine. A better analogy would be to say a big spin-up is like accumulating a huge stack in a tournament. You need some luck, you need to play well - in short, you need to run good. You can't usually get there without both the luck and the ability.

Jerry Yang excluded.

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Jim,

You are missing his point. The point he was making was that running up 20->4000 in a short time is not a hallmark of being +EV since you can easily do it playing a -EV game against a rigged video poker machine if you run good. Since you can spin up like that on a -EV game, the fact that you have done it playing poker does not mean your poker game is +EV.

You are arguing that your 20->4000 spin ups are due to poker skill, and he is pointing out you can do the same spin up and actually be a loser in the game, so you can't use your spin ups as proof you have a winning game.