[mikech]

i called the turn. river was a complete blank, i think an os 5. he bet 2k, leaving himself a bit less than 6k behind. um, wtf? 2k into what was almost 13k in the pot already?

i was really thrown off by this weak bet and just called. he reluctantly flipped over 89o.

anyway, turns out i got max value, but that's being results-oriented obviously. nonetheless, i still think flatcalling the turn is best, because most players in live games WILL fold worse hands to an 8k-more push there.

i'm sure he would've folded AJ or a straight to a turn shove, and maybe even 77. (i should've included in the op an earlier hand we played, where i bet-3bet the river all-in on a board of Ad Td 3x, 8x, 8d and he folded the nut flush face-up. so he's capable of making laydowns.) the only hand he would've called with is 88. and of course he folds all bluffs and semibluffs.

river was a shove but i got confused and i'm a wuss as many of you know. and at least i got to see his cards.