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Old 08-20-2007, 04:18 AM
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Default Re: It is a long shot!

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I believe he's saying that the US isn't really interested in democracy as much as interested in democracies that the US can control or at least are heavily allied with US interests.

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Aren't those two things the same thing though? Are there any liberal democracies in the world that are not heavily allied with US interests? While, the individual policies of individual leaders and parties from individual countries will, from time to time, differ to that of the US, they're not fundamental differences.

For example, the policy differences between the US and, for example, the leftist PM of New Zealand, Helen Clark, pale into insignificance when compared to the policy differences between the US and many non-democratic nations. It is noticeable that as Russian democracy fades away, there is increasing tension with that of the US.

The basic conception of neo-conservatism (I'm out and proud, btw) is that democracy, as well as being good for the residents of democratic states, is also good for other democratic states.

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The US doesn't seek to control New Zealand or exploit its resources for self-interest. And of course, the answer to your question is "No" -- genuinely promoting democratic ideals != propping up only those democracies you can control or exploit -- such a view is complete "doublespeak", can't you see why?
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