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Old 08-19-2007, 02:41 AM
pig4bill pig4bill is offline
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Default Re: Are naked calls/puts insanely +EV? What am I missing here?

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Please. Being naked short calls is no more deadly than selling short the common

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The deadly part comes with the leverage. Sometimes folks may sell a few more than they have the stomach for. Or they get into some sort of ratio position where they are long closer ins and short double the amount of further outs. Take yesterdays fed move for example. If some poor sap had call ratios on and the SPX blew through his ratio he was dead meat. And the ratio type position is very common.

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Yeah, you have to be careful in what you are doing. If you would normally do 1000 shares you shouldn't be doing 30 contracts. But you don't need a hundred million dollars in order to be careful.

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But I guarantee you someone on this forum will short 10 OTM calls of Apple or whatever and take in their $750, and the stock will run up 20+ points on them and they'll be very unhappy and out $20k, because they thought they understood the risk when they had no idea whatsoever.

RIMM ran up $23 yesterday alone. But of course, you're a big boy and can do whatever you want. Teach those market-makers a lesson and grab all the +EV you can!

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So you're implying the only people that can trade RIMM have a hundred million bucks. I know guys that can trade RIMM on a day like that, from the short side only, and make decent money. They have somewhat less than a hundred million.
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