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Old 08-15-2007, 03:22 PM
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Default Re: NL 10 players/flop question

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Hopefully CMAR will chime in with his views and he seems too put alot of effort into selecting the right tables to play on.

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lol

Well, I don't have a ton of $10NL experience...

IMHO, you want as high a players per flop as possible. Looking through tables it seems 35%+ should be a realistic goal for $10NL. However it depends how many tables you are playing. If you're playing 1 table you can be an awful lot more picky than if you 12 table.

You don't necessarily want a super-high average pot size since it implies LAGs which are more difficult to deal with than loose-passives. However, average pot size is tricky because one or two stackages can throw an otherwise tight table's average pot size through the roof.

Do keep an eye on hands per hour, if it's very high with a high players per flop it just means the table was recently short and the numbers are completely unreliable.

Thing is, you should consider your playing style as well when choosing tables and opponents to play against. Also your own flexibility and ability to adjust. If you play a very LAG style, playing against a bunch of calling stations may not be ideal. You'd actually be better off playing against a bunch of weak-tighties and TAGs you can steamroll. OTOH, if you're a meticulous value better then a table full of calling stations are just right for you.


If you're sitting at a table where you're 4X+1 raises are always getting 4 callers, then start raising 6X+1, then 8X+1. Whatever you can get away with, particularly with position and strong hands. If they want to call big raises and then fold all the better for you. And limp/call preflop with a wide range looking to get paid off when you hit. SC's, PP's and even suited aces are gold at these kinds of tables. You can also start making small pf raises with these hands in order to juice the pot to help you extract postflop.

Lay off the cbets with air. Particularly if you're OOP, against multiple callers and/or versus a bunch of stations. You don't have to disguise your play much at these levels. So if it comes down to it, bet when you have a hand and check/fold when you don't. They'll call you no matter what anyway.

These kinds of tables can be very high variance, but also very profitable. Just be very wary of playing cards that make second best hands like KQ/KJ/AJ/QJ. You want to play small pots with TP with these kinds of hands and that's often not possible at super-loose tables. So unless your hand reading skills are top notch, avoid getting yourself into trouble. Play them strictly for 2pair or better and monsters/monster draws. If you meet resistance with KJ or QJ on a jack high flop, slow it way, way down and as weak-tight as it sounds consider folding in some situations.
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