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Old 08-15-2007, 03:20 AM
Subfallen Subfallen is offline
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Default To m_the0ry, Justin A and others re: Brad1970\'s empathy.

(Disclaimer: the views expressed herein may not apply to ecumenical Catholics, Unitarians, conditionalist Evangelicals, and theosophists.)

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One of your family members commits an unforgivable sin, and goes to hell. How do you live in eternal bliss knowing that one of your loved ones will feel eternal pain and suffering.

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St. Thomas Aquinas: "In order that the bliss of the saints may be more delightful for them and that they may render more copious thanks to God for it, it is given to them to see perfectly the punishment of the damned." (Summa Theologiae, III, Supplementum, Q. 94, Art. 1. Emphasis mine.)

Tertullian, "Yes, and there are other sights: that last day of judgement, with its everlasting issues...when the world hoary with age, and all its many products, shall be consumed in great flame...What there excites my admiration? what my derision? Which sight gives me joy? which rouses me to exultation?---as I see so many illustrious monarchs...in fires more fierce than those with which in the days of their pride they raged against the followers of Christ. What world's wise men besides, the very philosophers, in fact, who taught their followers that God had no concern in aught that is sublunary, and were wont to assure them that either they had no souls, or that they would never return to the bodies which at death they had left, now covered with shame before the poor deluded ones, as one fire consumes them!...What quaestor or priest in his munificence will bestow on you the favour of seeing and exulting in such things as these?" (De Spectaculis from Arbesmann's The Fathers of the Church: A New Translation. Emphasis mine.)

Or did you forget that Dante placed above the gateway of his hell the inscription, "I too was created by eternal love?" What is human suffering in view of that---eternal love?---
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