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Old 08-15-2007, 12:12 AM
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Default Re: Legends of Poker 1K River Decision

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Fold the flop.
Check behind on the turn. Fold to the minraise
Fold the river...

I don't really love preflop either but it could be +ev as long as you are able to get away from your hand when beat.

The only hands that you are logically ahead of is JhTh and Ah8h.

I think that the flop and river decisions are more marginal than the turn which I think is a pretty straight forward check (and fold to the minraise)

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Key - (don't think about our own cards, think about villain's action) why SB slow played a set on a drawing flop against 2 players?

utg raise is questionable, but defendable at this table, they rarely looked me up. This is the first time get called in past 4 utg raises...and the next 3s after this hand weren't looked up.

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On this hand, SB (villain) checked, BB led the flop, from his past plays/ his bet size on the flop and check the turn, I found he didn't have strong hand.

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OK,let's talk about SB's actions and my river decision.

On the turn, when SB mini-c/r to 3K, I put her on AK, two pair, a set of 9 and flush draw. But I strongly believed no one would slow play a set on the flop given two hearts on the board when one bet, one call, and pot is big enough for c/r with set/2p related to each player's stacksize. OK, back one step, she could slow play a set on the flop, but not on the turn, she would have crai the turn against two players with a set, not mini-raising giving flush draw correct odd to call. Therefore, (villain has) a flush draw making a semi-bluff at the turn and push non-heart river with remaining stack fits into villain's action/pattern.

At the river, I thought the push was pre-planned at the turn unless she plays a set very badly or has KQ,K6.
But KQ/K6 would have lead the flop to find out where she was.

Let's think from villain's side, I called the flop, bet/call the turn, if villain put me on a flush draw, why push the river? For value or want me to fold?

The bottomline, villain played like a flush draw on the flop and suddenly changed the line to a represent a set on the turn/river.

It's hard to call with all my chips. Ok, go with the read and I called, villain showed K4o. BB said he folded KT on the turn.

Everyone at the table put villain on a set of 9. But, I believe villain tried to reprsent a set at the turn after showing a flush draw on the flop. The flop/turn actions were not consistent. (However, turn/river actions were consistent enough to show river push is meaningless)
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