[GoldenIP]

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Laetus, if I 4bet (and I may have to add this to my game), is raising to $120 or so about right?

GoldenIP, if we assume I had 98s what would you do preflop? Still fold? Call and fold to his cbet if missed?

I kind of think that we only know I got into a world of trouble because I posted the whole hand (when he shoves I'm definitely behind). So that's results oriented a bit maybe.

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The point I made about getting in a world of trouble is that with hands like this, calling 3-bets often gets you in a world of trouble. Unless you flop the nuts, 99% it's going to be very difficult to play even with position against an OOP PF raiser. Unless of course, if you're a really good post-flop opponent, I think it's spewy. I think it was just a case of getting frustrated this guy was 3-betting you frequently. Perfectly reasonable too. Sometimes it's right to make a stand. I'd just prefer to do it with a more versatile hand.

Anyways, 98s, I'd definitely call PF with position. OOP - a fold.