[AndyatSD]

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I guess I just don't get all the hating/flaming? What is there to gain from refuting whether someone is a winning (or losing) player? Time will tell; and long term results speak. I know the vast majority of you guys see a "P5 Regular" and think donkey (I'll admit I have done the same before and it's generally correct), but I guess I just really don't see why everyone is getting all worked up.

If she's good she'll start making a name for herself and move out of micro stakes. If she's not, she becomes old news after a few months?

Live and let live. Some of these posts seems like they were beginning to get personal with each other. There's no need to be all 2P2 PR1DE about this - successful going Pro stories make good inspirations for the next generation.

~andy

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Andy,
You play limit, correct?

Imagine someone came along and said they had played 500,000 hands of .50-1 LHE online and that they had a winrate of 12bb/100.

I would guess that you would want to know:

1. How the hell they had a winrate that was many times higher than anyone else has ever sustained.
2. Why the hell they hadn't moved up.

Jennafear's numbers are basically the SNG equivalent, which means one of the following is true:

a. She is the greatest low stakes SNG player in the world and yet was somehow too dumb to move up.
b. That she is greatly exaggerating her results.
c. That she is on a heater from hell over a limited sample size.

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I see your point, and actually I had a vague idea of the magnitude of how the #s she posted would have been equivalent statistical outbounds for LHE - but your example made it much more clear cut. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

And while I would wonder those things that you stated - it was nonetheless my point that even if I wonder these things I wouldn't really be bothered by her claims. If I think the claims are total BS - then pretty soon math will catch up and the #s will be straightened out.

I think it's a certain part of human nature to want to be proud of accomplishments - and she clearly views these accomplishments as noteworthy (and if they are true then of course it is, like you said, no one else has been able to sustain such a rate before). I don't see any reason to not let people wallow in their glory. =)

Oh and on a side note - I too wonder why with such astonishing results she didn't move higher. But I think I've long accepted to just not worry about why people do things - too much of a headache for too little good.

I do enjoy this thread very much though, which is why I posted. I was actually just trying to stir up some trouble but then you posted a serious reply so out of respect I had too. [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]

~andy