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Old 08-02-2007, 03:15 PM
Pudge714 Pudge714 is offline
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Default Re: Extremly Interesting First hand in a Stars $6.50

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This is very very very wrong.
Read famous gigabet post.

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This isn't very very very wrong even if it is wrong to begin with. This has very little to do with the gigabet dilemma, which in the first place has very little application in STTs.

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I am not saying I am calling here, this spot is a clear fold and the thread itself is uselss.

the assumption is that you know he has AK or 55.

In this spots people tend to overestimate AK and underestimate pairs which is way incorrect.

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The reason people "overestimate AK" is because it fairs much better against most ranges, but not in hypotheticals where people are put on unrealistic ranges.

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Would you fold anything besides AA and KK?

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Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

164,381,184 games 0.031 secs 5,302,618,838 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 53.954% 53.72% 00.23% 88311564 379146.00 { 55 }
Hand 1: 46.046% 45.82% 00.23%
75311328 379146.00 { AKs, AKo }

Text results appended to pokerstove.txt

164,381,184 games 0.005 secs 32,876,236,800 games/sec

Board:
Dead:

equity win tie pots won pots tied
Hand 0: 56.056% 55.84% 00.21% 91796496 349212.00 { QQ }
Hand 1: 43.944% 43.73% 00.21% 71886264 349212.00 { AKs, AKo }

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If you are suggesting folding a pair vs AK then you have to consider that pushing AK is always correct preflop.

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No. It depends on opening ranges and optimal play is very different a +EV play. Open shoving AA is correct here as well if open shoving AK is correct.

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; assumptions like "i am so much better than my opponents that I can pass this one" are totally irrelevant.


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The fact you can justify making -EV plays to create future more +EV plays, but cannot understand why it would make sense to pass on very marginal +EV edges to wait for better spots is really funny.
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