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Old 08-01-2007, 11:26 PM
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Default Re: Indiana sucks--- harrah\'s/caesars

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only no limit games they run are 1/2 NL $300 max and 2/5 $1k max.

They have all these damn limit games running all the time so the wait is 1-2 hours every time.

Poker is new to the region and old people are slow learners because of the small amounts of hands live play allows, i mean i seen as many hands in a months as some guys do in a year live.

Anyway to offer a different game structure? wait is 1-2 hours every time



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This post is wrong on so many levels I am not even going to try. They will spread any game that will fill a table. If you want something different, start a list.

The $2-5 NL was previously uncapped and died. They recently capped the buyin at $1,000 and the game is beginning to make a come back.

If you think the poker at Caesar's IN sucks, you need to get out more and see what the rest of the country has available.

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I disagree, Caesar's IN sucks pretty bad, but only recently.

My main problems

1) Every game is being whored to max out the rake. Huge time charges + rake at NL, full kill or strange structures at NL games. Obviously this is immediately disadvantageous to a good player (more rake obviously = bad), but the weird structures they keep on inserting often lead to...

2) Games necessitating strategic changes that are unclear to skilled players. For example, Caesar's dropped 2/4 in favor of 2/4-4/8 ($2 increments PF, $4 on flop & turn, $8 on river). While it's clear that this requires loose PF play, tighter flop play, looser turn play, etc., specific plays and strategies are unclear.

3) 1/2NL is almost unbeatable. $6 time charge every half hour + rake is absurd.

4) Wait times do suck. Yes, calling ahead is nice...when you don't get bumped off the list b/c of random sporadic I-64 or I-71 traffic, which happens all the time. Showing up in person, 1 hour waits are not uncommon at the lower limits.

5) Comps suck. If the occasional casino-provided free meal makes a significant difference in your bank account, you're [censored] here. Caesar's offers the worst comps of any casino in the US.

In general, though, the brushes are more competent than you'll generally find in So. Indy (esp. Argosy), the dealers are much more competent than you'll find (Argosy, Belterra), and the game selection is unbeatable. I've seen some casinos in the US, and I can't blame Caesars for the changes they've made (they really suck the money out of everyone, fish and good player alike), but they're very suboptimal, particularly of late.
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