[gumpzilla]

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gump if you were hero in that situation would you raise turn to get a cheap showdown? or am i totally off by thinking that

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Being out of position, raising the turn won't necessarily get us a cheap showdown, as checking the river in that spot is going to look a little weird. Beyond that, raising the turn against this guy's likely range seems like a bad plan because you'll knock out the bluffs and get charged by the good hands.