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I don't really agree with his general point (that this type of stuff is normal and should be ignored) but you are being ridiculous here, and you are the one who is wrong. Your specific example with the 9's and the AA was a very good example of POF's point, and terrible support for your own. You are just as likely to have the 99 as the AA, and situations that are very similar to that (but more subtle) will benefit a thinking player far more than an average donkey. I don't play at games where I'm not the 'thinking player,' so this benefits me more than anyone else.

Feel free to condescendingly invite me to your homegame, now, I might take you up on it.
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JESUS!!!!
what dont you understand about this??!!!! its like talking to the wall, only this time the wall talks back and is unbelievably annoying!
it doest matter WHO has the aces and who has the nines! dont you get that?! it makes the game UN-FAIR!!!! the players (you, me, seat 4, seat 10..it doesnt matter) are getting info they are not intitled to! it slows down, and stops the action that might otherwise have taken place!
please tell me you get it now! please tell me im not talkin to a retard! cause if i am, i feel like a real [censored] for arguing ith a retarded guy!
if your not retarded and you still dont get it, please promise me right now that you WILL come by my home game next time your in vegas! or at least let me know which casino your gonna play (donate) at so i can come fleece you of every last nickel!

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I don't think you know what unfair means, but of course, that isn't the argument we are having. You said this hurts MY winrate or MY livelihood, pretending that I am the pro or the OP or whatever. You didn't say it was unfair, you said it was -EV for me. This is flat out wrong, or at the very least your example is a HORRIBLE one and you have to further make your case. Your example shows how this is actually +EV for me (or at the very least, neutral EV), not how it hurts my winrate or is something that I, as a pro player, should be worried about.

As a sidenote (probably shouldn't bother as you seem to have a hard time with the simpler, main point) something isn't unfair if it is equally likely to help and hurt all players equally. Just because it is against the rules does not mean it is unfair. It is against the rules to demand that all players must receive their two cards without looking and then pass them one seat to the left, and play the cards that they now have. This is blatantly against the rules. It is also certainly not unfair.

As a quick mental exercise, try to figure out the impact on EV of players who muck their cards face-up every single time. Feel free to use whatever assumptions you wish, but justify them.

EDIT: Aw [censored] it, I couldn't fix the mangling of the quotes you did, it is what it is.