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Old 07-23-2007, 05:48 PM
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Default Re: Drawing Question

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Yes, you have the concept correct. However there are other considerations when drawing, espcially in NL:

1. You have to be careful if your draw is not to the nuts. A king or queen high flush draw might be against a better flush draw or if somebody has the bare A, they could get the fourth flush card on the river. The same applies to straight draws. Note that JT always makes the nut straight.

2. When drawing to a straight on a two flush board, it is possible that two of your straight cards will make someone a flush. This is where you introduce the concept of discounted outs where you need slightly better pods odds to continue.

3. In NL, implied odds are always possible. So even if you have slightly less odds than you need, you can call and make it up by collecting a bet when you make your hand. It takes a lot of skill to accurately guage what your implied odds are. Sometimes they are zero.

4. Sometimes, your draws are stronger than they appear. A nut flush draw may also win a hand if the ace pairs so you may have 12 outs here. As well, straight and flush draws when you have a pair make your hand stronger since you might miss your draw but still make two pair or trips. However, this is dangerous with hands like connectors because if you make two pair, it usually means the board is coordinated and somebody could have a straight.

5. As well, don't forget about the option of betting or raising your draws as a semi-bluff. This is usually better when you have a draw to the nuts as opposed to a weak draw for obvious reasons. However, if the fold component of the semi-bluff is high, then go ahead and fire.

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