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The big flaw in your logic (which is a big flaw in the logic of many beginner players) is that your priority is to make your hand easy to play.

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Steve, making it easier to play it has to be made a larger priority due to the fact we are vs donks here (and lots of em) playing thinking player logic vs donks will get you killed. I assume it's been a while for you, so correct me if I'm wrong, I often find the more experienced players to have lost the touch for the super donks. If I'm wrong here saying the limp is a bad combination of value and danger, can you fill in the blanks? And what flop you hit vs 4 opponents that gets raised do you feel good about?

Edit check raise,,,

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I have definitely lost touch with the low stakes donks but I still stand by my advice. I think that if I can explain this point clearly it might prove to be a turning point in your game.

Against the described opponents I am willing to felt most ace high and most king high flops because my opponents will be felting lesser aces/kings. Sometimes this means I lose to two pair or a set, more often I am able to double through someone who is drawing to 3 outs on the flop.

These loose-bad calling stations are not going to fold their AT on a AJ2 board so I will bet 300 on the flop, 650 on the turn, and I will shove the river. Sometimes I will lose to AJ but I will be maximizing value against their range at all times.

You are advocating reraising preflop. Loose-bad calling stations are going to fold ATo to a 3bet from the blinds and because of that we are costing yourselves a great deal of implied odds since they can not fold an ace high flop.

While these players will fold ATo preflop they will never fold 99 preflop to our reraise and when the flop comes down J72 they will go to the felt against our continuation bet. In fact, the only flops that they will not felt with their pocket pairs are flops with an ace or a king on them. By reraising preflop we eliminate the hands that we dominate from the villains range, and these are the very hands that we want to be playing against!

You should not fear letting a dominated hand outflop you. This does not mean that you should always stack off with TPTK against one of these players, you should still be using your hand reading skills, but sometimes you will stack off when they flop a set or two pair and when that happens you should just be content that you maximized your expected value in the hand.

Please post any follow up questions or if you disagree with my points.

Steve



edit: you realize that this pot is already raised right? You used the term limp while I am advocating a smooth call rather than a squeeze.

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Edited the limp term...

What I'm curious about now is how your play would differ if this were a larger.. say $50+ buyin?