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Old 07-15-2007, 06:09 PM
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Default Re: TT early

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I admit that I suck at poker, but to be honest, I'm not super happy with the "call and wait to see a flop" idea. I'm not saying it's wrong, mind you, just that I'm not happy about it.

You don't have proper implied odds to hope for a set, and there's a 69% chance of at least one overcard on the flop. So what's the plan if the flop is, say, J83 rainbow? Bet out and hope he missed (and doesn't decide to bluff)? Check and invite a c-bet (and then what?)?

I'm not convinced a shove isn't better here.

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Interesting, but it just seems a bit of a gift to any JJ,QQ that are gna snap call, and AK/AQ maybe that might wanna flip with us. Only real great situation would be if he calls us with an underpair, but how likely is that? However, when faced with the other options of raise, call or fold, Id say theres an argument for and against all.

Yeah, calling has its problems, but that problem also stands if we raise, only weve committed nearly a third of our stack in the process.

Say we raise to what, 600? he calls. flop comes Q72, us to act. Pot is t1245, villain has 1050 behind. We bet 600 to see where we are and he shoves. Doesnt he do this with AK/AJ/A10s? 99? 88? as well as hands that beat us. Pot is now t2900, costs us 400 to call, Do we fold?

So we check instead. he shoves.Doesnt he do this with AK/AJ/A10s? 99? 88? Do we fold?


I think maybe raising preflop to 600 and hoping to fold him is best, but if we do this i think we practically have to just commit to stop and going, and shove any flop.

All in all with this analysis, folding doesnt seem like a bad idea preflop, but that just cant be right.

Which brings us back to calling. Seems to be the best of all our options for me. Oh and flop a set too.

Interesting hand indeed, basically because of his overbet preflop.
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