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Old 07-13-2007, 08:15 AM
kamel kamel is offline
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Default AK,AT in a row from early position with callers behind, $33 Stars

Just would like to check 2 hands I've played in 150 players $33 MTT on Stars.

1) Average Stack is about t2700,
CO seems to be taggy, but also seems to have loosened up since he got a lot of chips, BB is unknown.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (8 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

Button (t3275)
SB (t1883)
BB (t9255)
UTG (t1235)
UTG+1 (t1140)
Hero (t1830)
MP2 (t2785)
CO (t9812)

Preflop: Hero is MP1 with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], A[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, <font color="#666666">1 fold</font>, CO calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>, BB calls t100.

Flop: (t475) Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets t300</font>, CO folds, BB calls t300.

Turn: (t1075) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, Hero checks.

River: (t1075) 3[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets t450</font>, Hero folds.

Final Pot: t1525

cbet O.K.? (I guess yes on this board)
I first wanted to 2barrel the turn, but that would have potcommitted me, so I just have given up the hand unimproved on turn.

2) Exactly 2 hands later. UTG+1 is unknown, BU is the same villain as BB in hand 1.

PokerStars No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t50 (9 handed) Hand History Converter Tool from FlopTurnRiver.com (Format: 2+2 Forums)

saw flop|<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>

MP3 (t3275)
CO (t1858)
Button (t9530)
SB (t1185)
BB (t1140)
Hero (t1380)
UTG+1 (t3969)
MP1 (t2785)
MP2 (t9312)

Preflop: Hero is UTG with A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img].
<font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t150</font>, UTG+1 calls t150, <font color="#666666">4 folds</font>, Button calls t150, <font color="#666666">2 folds</font>.

Flop: (t525) K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, UTG+1 checks, Button checks.

Turn: (t525) 6[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(3 players)</font>
Hero checks, <font color="#CC3333">UTG+1 bets t200</font>, Button calls t200, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises to t1230</font>, UTG+1 folds, Button folds.

Final Pot: t2155

After losing the pot in 1), I only have about 1/2 of average stack and blinds will rising in 3 mins, so I decide that ATs is good enough for a raise in my situation even from UTG.

At the flop, I miss and didn't want to cbet OOP.
After the weak bets at the turn, I decide that both can have only marginal hands, perhaps something like 99 or A5 or even more weaker and try to squeeze them out of the pot.

The main problem should be that I don't have really here a made hand to represent, as I'd play nearly every made hand different. O.K., it worked in this spot, but generally is it worth to make such risky moves??
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