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Old 07-12-2007, 09:47 PM
jogger08152 jogger08152 is offline
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Default Re: The difference between being coerced and coercing

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What if the gun has real bullets, but they don't work properly?

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Good point, I meant to ask something along these lines. Like what if the guy unloads on me but completely misses? He hasn't attacked me yet according to Jogger (he could have been shooting at the wall behind me, who am I to know his intentions?!) so unless I let him reload and try again, I'd be the one to INITIATE the violence right?

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False: when he fires at you, whether or not he hits, he has initiated an attack against you. Nothing about the definition of attack implies success. The issue is the initiation.