At the beginning of this month i decided to take a break from limit ring games to play Turbo SnGs. Back in 2004, Limit SnGs on Empire Poker were my main game, but i have very little NL SnG experience...none at Turbos. My point being, i understand the increased importance of Gap Concept and other tournament issues as they apply to SnGs. However, without the NL experience, i'm mostly using intuition with for my proper push and call ranges.
Tonight, i had this hand with six left and had no idea what to do. I don't have any reads on either opponent other than CO insta-calling all-in. The table as a whole appeared to be tighter than average during the first three levels, in case that means anything.
Full Tilt Poker No-Limit Hold'em Tourney, Big Blind is t300 (6 handed)
Hand History converter Courtesy of
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saw flop|
<font color="#C00000">saw showdown</font>
<font color="#C00000">CO (t1700)</font>
luvrhino (t2545)
SB (t1390)
BB (t3910)
UTG (t1610)
<font color="#C00000">HJ (t2345)</font>
Preflop: luvrhino is Button with Q[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], Q[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
<font color="#666666">
1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">HJ raises to t2345 (All-In)</font>, CO calls t1700 (All-In), <font color="#666666">
3 folds</font>.
Flop: (t4495) 4[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img], 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 6[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
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Turn: (t4495) 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
River: (t4495) 9[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players, 2 all-in)</font>
Final Pot: t4495
Results in white below: <font color="#FFFFFF">
HJ has Jc Kh (two pair, nines and fours).
CO has Ad As (two pair, aces and nines).
Outcome: CO wins t3850. MP wins t645. </font>
Obviously, if CO folds i'm pushing. If i had AA or KK, easy push. JJ or AK, i fold. If CO had only 1300 chips, i think i'd push with QQ, since i love my odds against HJ and should be a favorite over CO. As i wasn't sure what to do, i was busy Heads-Up on my other table, and i'm arrogant enough to consider myself significantly better than the average $24 Turbo player, i chose discretion.
Upon reflection, i think this was wrong. I love my hand vs. HJ and should be a decent favorite over CO. There's a good chance they have each other's outs (e.g. AJ and AK). While i'm screwed if i lose to HJ, i'm sitting pretty with 8040 of 13500 chips if i win over both. I'm not in horrible shape if i beat HJ and lose to CO (1490 chips, in a virtual 3-way tie for 3rd).
Do you people have any genius analysis? If you agree with folding, how few chips would CO need to have before you'd push?
If you would push in the above scenario, would you also shove if CO had the same stack as you?
How do your answers change if the blinds were 100/200 or 200/400 instead of 150/300?
I think my biggest problem is that i don't know what range to put CO on. What range should i put him on?