Thread: a quick thought
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Old 07-10-2007, 05:01 PM
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Nick is not saying "Other rights might sometimes be more important than property rights" like you are. He is saying "What if person X doesn't believe in property rights (at all)?"

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ACists are always saying, "If I don't believe in your morality, you have no right to force it upon me." I'm just saying that AC itself forces a morality upon everyone living under it, and it is a morality that adopts a set of axioms that generate property rights and exclude the possibility of any so-called "positive" rights.

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But the only people who "live under it" are those who voluntarily agree to. Ergo, they are not imposed upon.

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You could say the same thing about democratic statism. You are free to leave, and thus by staying, you are agreeing to the coersion of the state.

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Being "free to leave" doesn't mean you're not being imposed upon. In your own example, I don't have to assault you when you won't leave "my" land, you're free to leave on your own; if I am not imposed upon by democratic statism, then neither are you.

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If all of the property on a physical piece of land is "owned" in an AC society, how is the anti-property person supposed to live without (a) being coerced to accept property rights or (b) leaving?

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How did he get "there" (wherever that is) in the first place? You don't just magically wake up in the middle of someone else's house.
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