[BeL0WaB0Ve]

*sidenote before the hand*

So I'm just starting to post here more and getting used to the way you guys do things here. When I post HH's I give all information, including players' names while I notice you guys often edit the names to instead read MP1, CO, Bu, hero, villain etc. Is there a reason its done this way?

Ok, on to the hand...


Full Tilt Poker Game #2900637234: $1K Monday (21236015), Table 11 - 20/40 - No Limit Hold'em - 21:34:32 ET - 2007/07/09
Seat 1: sprediton (3,525)
Seat 2: wqt6470 (2,650)
Seat 3: GetPWN3D (1,880)
Seat 4: RayMcGraw (3,185)
Seat 5: Believer8219 (3,265)
Seat 6: voff voff voff (4,295)
Seat 7: winnaseat (3,455)
Seat 8: mrcall912 (2,470)
Seat 9: vegan213 (2,275)
GetPWN3D posts the small blind of 20
RayMcGraw posts the big blind of 40
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to GetPWN3D [Kc 4c]
Believer8219 folds
voff voff voff has 15 seconds left to act
voff voff voff calls 40
winnaseat folds
mrcall912 calls 40
vegan213 calls 40
sprediton folds
wqt6470 calls 40
GetPWN3D calls 20
RayMcGraw checks
*** FLOP *** [4d 9c 2s]
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D bets 100
RayMcGraw folds
voff voff voff calls 100
mrcall912 folds
vegan213 calls 100
wqt6470 folds

Pre-flop- VVV open limps UTG+1, I've had alot of experience with him and found this play to be odd for him. This starts the mandatory limp parade, I complete from the SB and we see a flop 6 handed.

Flop- I make my fairly standard stab lead for less then half the pot with middle pair on a very dry uncoordinated board. The plan is to go into shutdown mode if I face any heat on flop, and shutdown turn if called and I don't improve my hand or pick up back door flushdraw.

*** TURN *** [4d 9c 2s] [4s]
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D checks
voff voff voff has 15 seconds left to act
voff voff voff bets 200
vegan213 raises to 560
GetPWN3D has 15 seconds left to act
GetPWN3D has requested TIME

This looks like the perfect turn card for me. Normally I would continue betting here but I know both VVV and Vegan and I'm pretty sure checking the turn is the best way for me to gain chips. I've known both of these players to be aggressive and I'm confident one of them will bet.

VVV obliges me, leading for a smallish bet like my flop stab, and I'm not too concerned with him. Pre-flop I felt he may have limped a big pair, but I think he raises flop w/ OP, so now I think he could have somekind of suited 9, or a mid pair like 55-88, but 22 is definite possibility w/ flop FC and smallish turn lead trying to build some kind of pot.

So now it gets tricky. I feel this table was pretty weak by the standard of the normal FTP 1k tables, and the 2 players I'm involved in the hand with are definitely 2 of the tougher players at the table, and neither of them have cleary identified their hands.

Now Vegan puts in a smallish raise, which could be him sniffing out VVV's bet as a stab or a real hand. Giving him credit for a real hand, I think his range is 9s8s/9s7s/9sTs giving him a flush draw to go with top pair, A4s, 22, or a small suited 4 (34s-74s) which he decided to overlimp in position. It's 560 to me, and I have 1,740 left, enough to cripple Vegan while VVV has us both covered.

Options-

1. Flat the 560

2. I got trips w/ 2nd kicker, NH WP GG ME bc I'm all-in

3. Fold

Seems like #2 would be standard, #1 seems pretty bad, and I'm not sold that #3 is not an option or whether it would be worse then flatting here OOP. Given the stacks I don't have any chips to try and gain more info.

Thoughts?

BeL0W