[garvin]

Maybe everyone should cool down. Lets gets this into beta, and then hopefully into release. In software, talk is easy - delivery is everything (or at least much).

rvg, dont promise too much to too many, but get a stable product delivering much of what has been talked about to the basic sites and you will have a winner.

With all due respect, PT and PAHUD has been stable, updated and delivered for a long time, and until proven differently they remain the prominent products in this field.