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Thoughts?

[/ QUOTE ]Pipes - What turn card are you looking for? You're out of position so that you have to expect CO to usually bet the turn after you check. If you're only continuing when the turn is an ace, king, or eight, then you have eight outs, and probably for half the pot. Thus it's 37 to 8 against your continuing (and probably for half the pot). If for half the pot, you're going to split everything that goes in henceforth, which means when you win half, you get half of is already in the pot plus you get your own fresh money back.

37*(-1 small bet) = -37 small bets
8*(7.5/2 small bets) = + 30 small bets

That's assuming you'll win half the pot when you catch one of your outs on the turn (and ignoring the possibility of you scooping).

Thus by continuing after the turn, figured admittedly crudely, your e.v. is -7/45 small bets. Since the number is negative, continuing if drawing for one of the eight outs specified above has unfavorable odds.

What it boils down to, in my humble opinion, is if you're not going to bet this flop, and if it's 37 to 8 against you continuing to a bet on the turn, then you should fold on the second betting round when your opponent bets.

In other words, you stayed in the pot one betting round too many.

The other thing you might look at is the ill advised pushy pre-flop raise from mid-position with this tepid but pulling hand.

You played this hand like a tennis player who has a big first serve and little else - smash and that's fine unless your opponent hits the ball back.

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