Re: .1/.2 54s spew?
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Ugh! Folding the flop is terrible
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Yeah 11:1 closing the action + perfect relative position = call
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11:1 justfies playing on if you have 4 clean outs, that i do not question...and if one has greater implied odds, so much the better...respectfully, i do not see 4 clean outs here and i think there are some reverse implied odds issues to consider with the river card...the 4 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] & 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] are both tainted as they put 3 clubs on the board and there are 3 opponents...if either the 4 or 5 [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] come on the turn we can still beat by a redraw of another club on the river...i think we have only 3 outs clean, and even then the outs from the clean 5's can be beaten by a redraw that pairs a villain's kicker...i would want odds more like 16:1 to call here...a more experienced player than me might go ahead and play this hand, but i'd prefer not to take the risk and wait for a better overlay before putting my money into the pot
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