[Austiger]

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huge leak, in the long term a chip bleeder

[/ QUOTE ]When you hit a str8 or twopairs you can often double your stack. The hand in it self are a big bleeder but in the specific tourney they can be a good start to an early chiplead.

If you try this 500 times at the 10/20 level and only hit good 5 times where you double up from ~1500 chips you'll lose 500 x 20 = 10.000 chips and win 5 x 1500 = 7.500 chips (net -2.500 chips).

You'll be -25% on the hand but when you do double up your $EV (not chip EV) will bu much higher then the loss of 20 chips.

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I think this is bad logic. The only reason to play these hands is Shania, IMO. Look at the way Jamie Gold did it in the ME. If you are limp/raising some big pairs, you balance it out with limp/folding suited connectors. If it's early and lots of people are limping with junk, then there is no real advantage to balancing your strategy and you are just asking to get in a bad situation OOP with 2 pr vs. set, strt vs. higher strt., flush vs. higher flush etc. where you will always get stacked, but not always get max value when you're ahead, because you are in EP.