[Jason Strasser (strassa2)]

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against an ace obv grim, he's betting pretty small, and like I said it'd take some sort of live read that I could push him off of it

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yeah this is my thinking also. when his turn bet goes out, it goes out with the knowledge that if you call, you almost never have an ace. then you get to face another awesome huge bet on the river because he is the only one in the hand who can have an ace. i guess you can have AK, but not many opponents will give you credit for floating AK on a flop like this. when he bets the river, shoving is so weird that i think AK and similar hands will be very very confused. you could also be ahead. he could also have TT which is what you hope to rep. tough spot...but i'm usually mucking on the turn like cts said but if i decide to continue i'm doing so as a bluff.

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james you and cts are obv awesome but i think vs a good player here turning our hand into a bluff when we have inherent bluff catching ability, and an opponent who is aggro enough to fire again, is the better plan.

i'd probably show as much weakness as possible and then either pussy out and fold or call twice. first time slow second time fast.

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im also with bobbo, i dont even think about turning QQ into a bluff here. but u young internet kids are so crazy!