[Jeffmet3]

thanks for the suggestions, although if possibly i'm looking for a relatively new game although in similar genres to what you're suggesting.

i wasn't a big fan of frozen throne versus the original, and i've played most of the old command and conquer, just wasn't a big fan as i don't really like older game engines and graphics

also WCIII changed the way they did levels for online play which made it dumb. Playing high level games used to be a lot of fun, but now, it just requires people to play tons and you can't go down when you lose.