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Old 05-24-2007, 04:05 AM
JavaNut JavaNut is offline
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Default Re: am i overthinking this draw?

Limping with 87s is ok, but your implied odds are shrinking fast after the preflop raise, but the chance of stacking an opponent rises with the raise. I'd fold preflop after the raise, but I'm tight as a very tight thing.

On the flop you most likely need a straight flush to win. If your opponents doesn't already have a boat, then at least two of your flush outs will make them a boat, leaving you with at most 7 outs and no way of knowing which are good. Those 7 outs must be counted down due to reverse implied odds, you making the flush and no boat, the boat can still come on the river approx. 6 outs to your opponents. That will leave you with 5 outs or thereabouts if we are optimistic. Not even close to getting implied odds. Fold on flop.
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