[JaBlue]

I think you guys are wayyyyyyy overestimating villain's (Ike's read: "tight and good") tendency to make heroic calls or maybe I just haven't played with ike enough to know that he's superaggro or something. The K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] is just too scary a card on this board for most guys to put him on a 3-barrel IMO. Also notice Ike opened UTG so to call him with Qx you gotta be convinced he has A:diamondX[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]6[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]-type stuff, or airish [complete or JJ/1010/88ish]. And without history/crazy image its gonna be real hard for villain to put him on those last hands, esp if he happens to hold the A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].

Probably not much to arguing this anymore, hopefully others chime in.