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Old 05-13-2007, 11:46 PM
ElGuapo23 ElGuapo23 is offline
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Default Re: I dont know how to play limit hold\'em but I try anyway. 20/40

Sean, this is Ben on Tyler's account. I had kings in that hand. Here was my thinking. I still think raising earlier might have been best, however, I was pretty sure you had straight, because when you said "That's a great flop for my hand" it was very believable. But I have to give you range of smaller set, aces, or zip, because I have no feel and I have to factor that in. If board pairs on river it's so unlikely that you put me on house and don't threebet because you know I'd raise set or two pair on the flop. If you have smaller house, you get skull [censored]. Additionally, I can narrow Michael's range down to hands that can only call you down, since he's just calling on flop, so I get his extra bet each street whereas he would fold to your threebet on the flop, plus if a ten comes I can definitely fold on the river if he bets, because his range is almost all ace hands. The river raise was just stubborn and inconsistent with my thinking throughout the hand, and I should have just called and definitely folded to the threebet, but every time my thinking against you has been fold, I've been wrong so I decided to just figure out my thinking and do the opposite against you. Nice. I had a lot of big hands, I think I ran good, and I know I made a lot of mistakes, but I learned a lot. My strategy was to play as many pots as I could in position. I could steal the button every time it was on seats 8 9 and 1, so I could almost always gain position after the flop. Additionally, deathdonkey was calling with anything, so I could play against a random hand with position against seats 2-4 who I know are all excellent post flop players and I could learn from making mistakes against them. I wasn't going to get that from playing gnitty against them. Also, now Michael thinks I'm a loose cannon so he's screwed when we play the 40, until he feels out my style change. It wasn't that expensive for me, and I felt like seats 8-1 were extremely predictable. deathdonkeys frequent preflop raises put you and Michael in horrible spots where you had to play an extremely gnitty preflop selection, because the way I'm playing you feel like I'm going to enter every pot behind you, so I know whenever you guys come in you're strong. The hand where I threebet you out of the small blind then checkraised the flop after you capped pf and I later said "I had two raggedy overcards" I had AKo and I think I should have folded there because with all the weak players limping in tons of aces and kings must have been out of the deck and I think I was just playing that hand in a horrible spot the way the game and my image were at the time and the way you were playing to adjust for deathdonkeys play(here he just limped). I have a lot to learn, but I think what I learned from changing styles at the 20 was worth whatever it may have cost me, and maybe I even had the right style for my seat in the game. Then again, I know nothing about limit, so I would take your opinion. In no limit, changing styles is probably way more effective than in limit. Anyways, I gotta play chinese with sam and tyler and if you're still in town you should come over, we're having some heated hand discussions. It's pretty sweet.
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