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Old 05-11-2007, 09:57 AM
Heisenb3rg Heisenb3rg is offline
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Default Re: how do they do it

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That last AK hand is truly awful. Why not just call down? You had to be on tilt, right? I'm not saying call down is the best default play but it's much better than 3-betting.

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not on tilt at all.

calling down is only better if he's going to either call the 3-bet and donk bluff the river or 4-bet bluff the turn. i expected a 30/10/1 player to do neither of these but to c/r that turn scare card at some frequency. so 3-bet for a free showdown - he may even fold a better hand. not hard to understand really.

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Are you going to bet if you hit an A or a K?
Do you think if he's bluffing that he wont fire through on the river?
Do you think a 30/10/1 does this with a pair and doesnt call down?

IMO it's incorrect to bet an A or K river, will always get a river bluff and will never fold a pair. However I would also think that that he would almost never donk bluff river after being 3 bet or 4bet bluff... So the two lines should run pretty close in expectation, but I see no reason to expose yourself to make an incorrrect fold in a huge pot (fundamental sense) if it's not clearly a +EV play over another. Certaintly not awful though.
Sucks the worst possible scenario occured though and stayed true to the theme of the thread.

Am I the only one who's looking forward to gehrig's 1000BB downswing sometime soon to shut him up about variance? [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
Just kidding gehrig, although blunt and arrogant at times, your advice is often solid.
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