[Aloysius]

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Why is there not more love for Payton?
He played in a really slow offense which hurts his offensive numbers, but he still put up solid numbers.
He always played a ton of minutes
He was great defensively.

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Yeah (see my post above) - I am looking at their stats, remembering Payton at his peak on the Sonics... I'm having a hard time seeing why Kidd is better. Better defender, much better offensive weapon / shooter / creator... the only edge Kidd has is I guess leadership (questionable) and much higher career assist average (in large part cause he took less shots also Payton as Pudge mentioned was in slower-paced / less FGA offenses).

Don't get me wrong I [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] Kidd's game and perhaps I'm overrating Payton... just leaping to his defense is all.

-Al