[Kimbell175113]

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Your read says you can call, easily.

But actually, your read is meaningless since you are assuming he played loose due to chip stack size. He could just as easily be a nit that hit AA, or a random player that caught a good hand.

So, READLESS, he value bet the river on your ass and you fold and wait for better situaitons.

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I guess I count "a random player that caught a good hand" as a bad, loose player, and that's all I was saying. If you see someone with a bunch of chips after just a few minutes, sure it's possible that he picked up AA vs KK, but it's much much more likely that he put a lot of chips in the pot in at least one marginal situation. I wasn't exactly meaning for that line in my OP to be a strong reason for me to call the river, which I see as a pretty bad play most of the time, anyway.