Re: I\'m always in these spots.... shortie & tiltie
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Personally, a fold seems more likely preflop to me.
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Even though the guy pushing can have literally any 2 cards? You don't think pocket 9s is likely to have 33% equity against the range of the shortie and the tilting person? (honestly, its ONLY the shortstack I'm concerned about. And since he didn't push, I genuinely don't give him much credit.)
So... what hands to you NOT fold against these kinds of opponents?
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I'm not worried about the tilting person, it's more about the shortie. Essentially you're paying $20 to play your pocket 9s. If you call preflop,, you HAVE to call after the flop almost certainly. The shortie started the raising, so its entirely possible that he has TT+ and is feigning weakness preflop to get you to come along with smaller pairs he can beat (like 88, 99, etc).
I just don't see the point in throwing in tons of money preflop with a hand that could very easily be dominated in this situation. I see this play done all the time with the shortie holding AA/KK.
citizenwind - Agreed.
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