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pvn,

Or maybe I think the circumstances that would lead to a stateless America would be less desirable than other outcomes.

I said a stateless society could POTENTIALLY exist under those circumstances. However, there is no reason that a government could not also be founded on those principles.

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But you said you don't want a stateless America. You did not say that you were hoping against a set of circumstances that could lead to either a stateless america *or* some other stateful outcome.

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This is pretty much SOP for you; any time someone disagrees with you, accuse them of supporting violence against innocents.

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I do not hope for or envision a stateless America.

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So you hope for and envision a state in America.

How do you see this without violence against innocents?